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[caithream]

THIS IS HILARIOUS BECAUSE ME AND loony_moony WERE JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION THAT BEN EDLUND HAS LIKE, FOUR LADY GAGA SONGS THAT HE KEEPS ON REPEAT AS HE WRITES EPISODES. And Dean totally recorded onto a tape off the radio some of his favorites but did it at 2am and down in the basement so no one would know. YEP.

SO UM, I'M JUST GOING TO GO VOMIT OKAY. You know that scene in X-Men where the senator dude totally dissolves into water? IT FREAKS ME OUT. Aaaaand Mr. Edlund's just like, LOL THAT, BUT WITH DISGUSTING AMOUNTS OF BLOOD. Ughghga;adkflj;lskd. And BOILS and WTF LOCUSTS EATING OUT OF THAT GUY'S HEAD, I CAN'T. Thank you, SPN, for coming back to your truly disgusting roots. Gaaaag.

Dean dreams of Dean with his shirt off. I dream of Dean with his shirt off. Thank you for your dreams, Dean.

BUT I JUST HAD TO LOL SO HARD WITH THE REST OF THE GRATUITOUS WORKING OUT AND SHIRTS BEING OFF AHAHAHAA. It was just... so obviously gratuitous. Appreciated, of course, but lol, Ben Edlund. You cheeky monkey.

That was tooootally Robert Singer in the beginning shot in the hospital before they panned to Sam and Dean, right?

LOLOLOL DEAN RACING SAM IN HIS CAR AND THEN CALLING IT A NAME. He would, because he is five.

DEAN'S PRAYER. CASTIEL SAYS "HELLO." CASTIEL HAS A SPECIAL BOND WITH DEAN OOPS DID I LET THAT SLIP. Alkjas;ldkjfas;oweijal;sdkj. Also, we can definitely rule out Moses as a suspect. HOW DID I LIVE WITHOUT CASTIEL IN MY LIFE. I also enjoy his popping in and out of everywhere like crazy, ahahah.

ALSO AHAHAH HIM DESTROYING SAM'S CAR AND THEN LOOKING OVER HIS SHOULDER AT IT LIKE, meh, AND BAMFING BACK INTO THE HOTEL ROOM. Ahhh frick I love it.

Aaron Birch = Moses's brother + wood type of a staff. Nice.

So! Basically Show is anvil heavy on the fact that Dean is the only voice of reason at this point in time. Cas is, interestingly, reminding me of Sam in season 1 and Sam now. Incredibly driven to find the answers they want, but they also put aside the fact in their minds that finding those answers could get people hurt or killed. This is the third time in three episodes that Dean has objected to a plan of action that would solve a problem, but get people hurt in the process (the neighbors, the baby, and now the kid.) Why? Setting up the pins to be knocked down later, of course. There is a reason they are currently depicting Sam as completely cold-hearted and apathetic. Don't you remember season two? The mystery? That John told Dean a secret in the very first episode of the season was the buildup for, finally! the big reveal halfway into the season. This is the exact same process. I cannot even tell you how much I sincerely doubt the writers would just let Sam's character go by the wayside, MEH, HE'S JUST A HEARTLESS BASTARD NOW, WHATEVS. Lol seriously? No. Boy has seeeeerious issues, and denial coming out of his eyeballs to boot. And I really think that reveal episode will be a certain episode that they showed in the "Soon" preview, which omgomgomgoaijda;gwfieojfw FLAILING FOR THE JUST A SECOND, AAAAHHH okay I'm done. SO NO, SAM, DEAN HAD ISSUES WITH HELL, AND YOU DID TOO, Mr. Seriously-In-Denial-face.

Also, I seriously thought Castiel and Balthazar were going to disco there, for a minute. Man. That would've been awesome.

UHHH I FORGOT STUFF, I KNOW IT. D: But okay, instead let me say something about the "Soon" bit which should be able to be seen by highlighting omg idk how this works: A TRUTH CURSE TROPE AAAAAAHHHHH OMFG ARE YOU SERIOUS LFKJASD;LAJDFOWAJEI LOVE. IT. Usually it's always DEAN that is cursed into being truthy, but they're probably going the different angle so we can FINALLY GET SOME ANSWERS OUT OF SAM "LOCKBOX" WINCHESTER. Also I hope they gather some ridiculousness out of Castiel too, kekekeke. AND THE TWILIGHT EPISODE, YOU GUYS, I WILL NOT EVEN. AHAHAHHF;ASLDKJS I'M SO EXCITEEEEED.



Also omg the episode Jensen directed will be airing next week while at Wincon! HOW FUN.

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[musical-emjay.livejournal.com]

YOUR CUT TAG IS MAKING ME SERIOUSLY LOLLLLLLLL. OH SHOW ♥

UGH UGH UGH I am so with you on all the gross-out stuff. EWWW *shudder* It was like a million times worse for me though because all through that scene with the last cop where he's scratching his head and then the bugs COME OUT OF HIS HEAD made me think of an awful story my Aunt (who's a nurse in a locked psych ward) told me once about this patient who was like, a totally normal dude who had a wife and kids and shit EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT HE WAS CONVINCED THERE WERE SPIDER ROBOTS LIVING IN HIS HEAD SO HE SCRATCHED IT TO GET THEM OUT UNTIL HE LOST A WHOLE PATCH OF SKIN ON HIS SKULL D: D: D: D: D:

I'm......not exactly sure how I feel about the episode yet, but Castiel was a RIOT ("I think we can rule out Moses as a suspect" LOLOLOLOL OH MY GOD) so I definitely enjoyed that. But I couldn't even appreciate the shirtless Sam scene, because I was too distracted with raging over how the writers feel it's necessary to show how ~~wrong and ~~fucked up Sam is by making him buy a hooker. WHAT. HOW DOES THAT EVEN :|

Also, I totally missed the whole "Aaron Birch" thing. FAIL. What a waste of twelve years of Catholic school!

[radiophile.livejournal.com]

OH HAI THERE, FANCY SEEING YOU HERE ♥

Okay, re: hooker... I've thought it over, and it seems to me that Sam is now even MORE of a control freak than he was before Hell. Maybe buying hookers gives him that sense of ~power~ that he needs right now, maybe having sex without money exchanging hands feels too much like a connection/relationship, no matter how fleeting. Like, for him, sex is just a release, a purely physical act like eating or doing push-ups or taking a dump. The way he completely shut down the girl's attempts at making conversation or a later engagement? He isn't just pushing people away, he's fucking drop-kicking them down the pitch.

I didn't get why Sam would stop her from walking away without the money (like, hey, save your money c'mon), but maybe it's just Sam's way of reinforcing the idea that this isn't pleasure, this is business, that this wasn't anything more than a release and a transaction.

IDK, I KINDA LIKE IT...??? Everyone is upset that Sam's character has changed so much, but I'm excited and intrigued. I think the hooker revelation was as shocking as it was meant to be, but there's a lot of meaning behind it, too.

(OR MAYBE I AM GIVING THE WRITERS TOO MUCH CREDIT AND THINKING ABOUT THIS TOO MUCH)


[EDIT] ALSO, CAN I JUST SAY: POST-HELL!SAM DOESN'T WAX/SHAVE HIS CHEST ANYMORE. RELEVANT.

[musical-emjay.livejournal.com]

HAY GURL HAYYYY ♥

Ahahaha, ok, so, what you're saying totally makes sense and I agree with you in a theoretical "if we were writing the show and not the SPN writing team" way. But I just....have so little faith that this is actually what they're doing, or that all this fucking awful weirdness will turn into something that isn't buttfuck dumb. Because this is like an almost identical re-tread of S4 for me right now, and aside from the fact that I fucking HATED everything they did with Sam in S4, seeing all this bullshit again is just TIRING. AS. HELL. Like, didn't we DO THIS ALREADY? You know, the whole "Sam is wrong wrong wrong and bad and fucked up but Dean is a righteous righteous man who's being hurt by Sam's awful LIIIIEEEEES!" routine?

It almost feels like the supposed "mystery" of what the hell was going on with Ruby in S4, when everyone was like, "How the hell is this the same character AT ALL?" and the writers were like "Oh silly fangirls, there's more to Ruby than meets the eye~~! You will see!" and it was all just ASDFASJDLKAJSDLKFJADSF SO DUMB.

Also, even if what you're saying here is true, I do not trust the writers to reveal these things in any way that won't be all about Dean. You know what I mean :/ It's not going to be about how Sam needs to heal and work through his issues for his OWN good, it's going to be about how he needs to be EXACTLY how DEAN feels he should be, because Dean is suddenly the authority on mental health, somehow? And despite the fact that a lot of the ways Sam is acting now are exactly the way Dean HIMSELF used to act, Dean will still condemn Sam for it without a shred of irony or any sense of his own blatant HYPOCRISY. I can see it happening like that all too clearly.

I just....idek. The writers this season have completely lost me. If they cannot even recognize their own buckets of fail with regards to the whole Dean/Lisa/Ben situation, I have so little faith that they will in any way do justice to the potential of Sam's journey.

UGH. BLAH BLAH BLAH RAGE. LONG COMMENT IS WANKY AND LONG. Sorry for ranting in your LJ, caithream :/

(HOWEVER, SHIRTLESS AND SLIGHTLY HAIRY SAM IS ALWAYS RELEVANT. FACT.)

[mrscutedean.livejournal.com]

WORD total word. I could not like this episode, i couldn't even appreciate shirtless Sam because they are just destroying him, and not just that I could get it if i honestly trusted them to treat him right but the past proves we get shortchanged on Sam development and pov and explanation so why would they change the habit of a lifetime.

The only single thing keeping me watching is that Sera knows Sam, or i thought she did and she wouldn't let this go on but right now I am so close to giving up it's insane.

Also i hate what she's doing with Dean. I mean I wanted him back with Sam because he wanted to not because Lisa said he should, they've just gone about it all wrong for me.

Um positive positive because Sarah is my little beacon of light and optimism and I don't want to be this big black cloud, uh glad they're back in the impala together and also that Dean finally got around to asking Sam if he was alright.

[caithream.livejournal.com]

I definitely agree with you that they've shortchanged Sam in the past, which is weird, because with this show it's usually about Sam, but from Dean's POV. But I hope they don't go that route again now. With the complete 180 of his character from the end of 5.22 (self-sacrificing martyr) to now (cold and apathetic), if they don't show what happened or at least give Sam a good chunk of time to explain what happened (a la I Know What You Did Last Summer but, uh, better, haha), I'll honestly be very surprised. I hope I'm not just holding the torch for the writers though, lol, because despite how much I love the angst, I would like to see both Sam and Dean become partners who trust each other again, at some point.

Heeeee, nauseatingly optimistic, remember? ;D They are together again, yay! As much as I liked the Charger, the Impala is waaaaay cooler (and saved Sam from being Lucifer's meatsuit for eternity!), sorry Sam!

[caithream.livejournal.com]

Per your third paragraph, I feel like almost all previous seasons have been about Sam, but from Dean's POV. There have been a few instances, like I Know What You Did Last Summer where we get to see wtf is up with Sam, but so much of it is tinged with Dean's opinions/emotions/etc. But even though, yeaaah, I guess you could call me more of a Dean girl only very slightly before being bi-bro, there are definitely times I still wanna call out Dean for being an asshole douchebag buttface. I think - or at least I hope - that if the writers go the way of making Dean continuously drag Sam through the mud, that they're intent is that we the audience go, AUUUGH YOU BOTH ARE STUPID AND STUBBORN AND I WILL SMASH YOUR HEADS TOGETHER AFTER PULLING THEM OUT OF YOUR ASSES.

That's barely any consolation though, I know, but I'm just really really hoping that this is just culminating and culminating and the breaking point will be reached soon-ish. Personally I still have faith that the writers have a good reason for making Sam act the way he is, mostly because Sera's a Sam girl, haha, but also because he broke through Lucifer's hold at the end of 5.22 and before anyone could do ANYTHING else, sacrificed himself completely by jumping in the hole. If you go from that to the way Sam is now, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. There has to be a catalyst. YOU HERE ME, WRITERS. CATALYST. DO IT RIGHT.

And bb you are more than welcome to rant and rage in my LJ; I honestly don't do it much myself because I sometimes end up getting sidetracked by being flaily, oops.

SHIRTLESS SLIGHTLY HAIRY SAM THANKS YOU FOR YOUR TIME:

[caithream.livejournal.com]

Not that I still wholly approve of that scene, but I do like this explanation a lot. When I thought the girl was a random hookup I was like, oh, but then when he pulled out the money I was like, UH, OH. But the fact that he didn't even respond to ANYTHING that she said? WOW. But, like you said, if he's trying to distance himself from anything even resembling a connection or a relationship, he's doing a damn fine job. I mean, he pretty much did the exact thing to Dean at the end, shutting him down when Dean was trying to find out what's wrong.

All of that really really makes me think Sam either thinks he still has a bit of Lucifer's evil in him, and he's refusing all avenues of closeness with anyone as a result, or he actually does have something inside of him that he's warring with and all of this is a front to push people away to not get anyone hurt. Buuuut like you also said, maybe we're giving the writers too much credit, lololol. Bottom line though, is that something is DEFINITELY up with him, and once we find out what, hopefully it'll be some changes.

[caithream.livejournal.com]

OH GOD OH GOD NOOOOO THAT'S AWFUL AND HORRIFYING. DDDD: It also reminded me of this article I read about THINGS THAT GROW IN YOUR BODY THAT SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, you know, like eggs being laid under your skin and maggots growing like tumors gughggja;slgdgha;dkj. Okay, I have to stop, I'm gonna puke.

Yeaaah, when the girl came out I was like, oh, Sam had a random hookup, yay, and then he pulled out the money and I was like, ...O_O. I do like gypsy_sunday's explanation, but it did seem a bit much.

[whispered-theme.livejournal.com]

*sigh*

Wow.

I wonder if the writer's even realize by now what kind of uproar they've created. I'm just so on the fence. I agree with musical_emjay, and just PRAY they are oh so careful with Sam's journey. I too hated what they did with it during S4, and then thought the way it ended in S5 was so redemptive and full circle for him that it was perfect. However, now this. It seems they fall so easily into the trap of making him the unlikable, bad and unreasonable one. I miss S1 and 2.

But then again, I still am trusting. That promo was hopeful, so we'll see what happens. This season still has the potential to be great in my mind.

[caithream.livejournal.com]

I really hope so too! Because if they don't end up doling out a really good explanation, that's going to be a serious bummer. But like I was telling everyone up there, it would be really weird to have Sam go from being this self-sacrificing martyr at the end of 5.22 to suddenly apathetic and cold-hearted with no in between reasoning whatsoever. He's like Mystery Spot x 20394830. :| So yeah, FINGERS CROSSED, BB. <3

[caithream.livejournal.com]

Oh, I think they can stretch it for EIGHT MORE EPISODES, AT LEAST. (I'm kidding. I hope. :|)

[feendish.livejournal.com]

I'm sure I could have many interesting and deep comments on your thoughts, but I am too exhaustified to attempt it at this point... It is, after all, a con-Sunday morning.

What I am here to say is...

I LOVE THAT YOU USE "BAMF" AS A VERB. !!!!!!!!!AHHHHH NIGHTCRAWLER AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

[geckoholic]

Dean dreams of Dean with his shirt off. I dream of Dean with his shirt off. Thank you for your dreams, Dean.
Yeah. Dean, please to be having those dreams every week, kay? THX.

DUDE. DUUUUUDDE. THE SOON!! *flails*

Also, I'm a little bit freaked by exactly how hapyy I was to have Cas return, I'll admit that. *lol*