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[caithream]

Stolded from my darling flusteredspeech about Jensen in Chicago ONE WEEK AGO from today alsdkjfasj:

"I read on another blog that a woman who had laryngitis mouthed "thank you" to Jensen in the autograph line, he, I guess thinking she was deaf, signed "you're welcome" back to her."

Hngghgagksdadakdsja ARE YOU JOKING ME. As I told her, the man needs to stop being so goddamn amazing or I'm sending a marriage proposal. I AM SERIOUS. Oh my God.

In lieu of the fact that I've been sucked in to writing RPF het (or trying to, if school would stop interrupting me pls), which, really, is the oddest thing ever because any sort of RPF makes me squirm and feel generally weird, I'd like to know what y'all's opinions are on it. If you haven't guessed by now, any sort of slash, Wincest or otherwise, really isn't my thing, so, you know, HET, woo, but yeah. Even though I feel kinda weirded out by RPF it's just one of those things that I feel like I HAVE to write, you know, so I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you do like it, why don't you feel weirded out by it? Is it weird of me to shy away from it because, I dunno, I guess when you get down to it, fiction is fiction no matter which way you slice it, even though you're, uh, writing about real people? Haha I don't even know. Perhaps I am overthinking this. LESS THINKY MORE PORN??

And yeah, if I have to analyze or write another paper on Virginia Woolf or James Joyce, I'm going to shoot myself in the head. :D

Comments

[killmotion.livejournal.com]

Awww. OMG I really want to have his babies now.
I like the ship of Jo/Dean. Kinky hot amazing perfectness, imo. And it's het!

And I don't mind RPF (especially love Alona/Jensen) and I read some occasional Wincest, but I don't ship it or anything.

[caithream.livejournal.com]

Ahaha omg you know what's funny? I'm really not too fond of Jo/Dean (not because it's Jo, just because I kind of feel like she's more of a little sister to the boys, which goes back to the incest thing, yadda yadda) but Alona/Jensen? HOMG SO ADORABLE. Especially since they were at Asylum together, n'aw!

[killmotion.livejournal.com]

Idk, I think the writers should have let her character have a little more time to grow and stopped listening to the whining fans calling her a Mary Sue. I mean she's just tossed to the side so often. And I love Jo! I really, really loved her in Born Under A Bad Sign. She already seemed tougher in contrast to No Exit. I think it'd be cool if she cam back for an episode or two (or more <3) and was seen as no longer a 'little inexperienced girl' and was totally badass instead.
OMG TACKLES. I love them. They are seriously so cute. Who cares if she's married?! And he's dating Daneel? Jensen and Alona are so cute and if I ever get un-lazy I will make some icons of them.

[falterfrei.livejournal.com]

I think the main squick with RPF is that you're not working with already established CHARACTERS, you're using real people and turning them into characters, so it ends up feeling much more intrusive and invasive. You're not writing about yet another of Dean's conquests which possibly at one point may have happened, you're writing something that you know full well never happened with Jensen, who tries to keep his private life about as private as it could possibly be with hundreds of stalkers fangirls squeeing over every move he makes.

Honestly for me, I don't really read much RPF and I rarely write it (the vignette I did for Kate being the one exception) because honestly, if we're going to keep the boys in character, they would NEVER cheat on their current SO's. I have had one story in my head recently, just because Jensen has such an aversion to fangirls and as a result the crazies tend to crawl out of the woodwork for him. Basically, it's a Misery redux where he gets kidnapped by a crazy fangirl cabbie in Chicago and held hostage (because they're "meant to be together") until Jared finds him and rescues him. Will I ever write it? I dunno. I'm just trying to finish the next chapter of A&D at the moment.

The sign language deal just makes me melt inside. Seriously, Jensen? You are just too sweet to be real.

Ahahaha, you don't want any more Virginia Woolf or James Joyce, yet you want to sign up for a Russian literature course? Honey, Russia is one of those countries where sometimes the sun doesn't rise for days at a time, plus it's abysmally cold, everyone's poor and everyone's an alcoholic. If you think the literature you've read already is depressing, you're going to want to kill yourself by the end of a Russian Lit course.

[caithream.livejournal.com]

Yes! Oh Char. Leave it to you to hit the nail on the head, heeee. I feel SO MUCH like an intruder, and, well, if you think about it from an outsider's point of view who doesn't read fic or understand fandom, it's downright creepy. Doesn't stop me from finding the few gems here and there that literally make me squeal into my fists omg.

!!! AHAHA OMG. Crazy fangirl story! Dude, I've got plenty of ammo from Creation Con that I never even talked about if you're really gonna write it heeeee.

Heee, WELL, not so much that they're depressing, it's just that I'm taking two modern Brit lit courses in one semester, which was a serious big mistake. I'm so steeped in Conrad and Woolf and Joyce and the overanalyzation of EVERYTHING I could scream ahahaaa. NEVER AGAIN OMG.

(Also also I just want this semester to be OVER so I don't have to worry about srs guilt trips if I'm chatting with you guys with my Word document open. :((()

[falterfrei.livejournal.com]

We'll see. Maybe sometime in the future if I can ever get back in the HABIT of actually writing, heh.

*pokes* Who cares if your Word document is open? So's mine! Come chat with me ANYWAY!! I haven't chatted with you in forever!!

[caithream.livejournal.com]

Heeee, my Word document for school-type writings! I HATE having a one-tracked mind... either have fun with you guys or write my paper. :((( Plus, now I have to go to work, SIGH. I PROMISE V. V. SOON OMG. <333333

[comically-so.livejournal.com]

omfg JENSEN I WANT TO HAVE YOUR BABIES PLZ. STAT. *flail*

About the RPF...that's an interesting question. I'm not really into it anymore (even with J2), but I used to be, particularly the RPS. I'm trying to come up with a good explanation for *why* but it isn't coming. The explicit porn always made me uncomfortable, though I've come to realize that's true with fictional characters too (PG-13 is my rating of choice, lulz). I don't think it's weird at all for you to shy away from it. Makes perfect sense, because these ARE real people. Huh. I think I'm gonna go for the ever lame answer of "JUST BECAUSE, OKAY??!!!11" and agree with LESS THINKY MORE PORN. Because hell if I can think of a better explanation. :D

I think you've mentioned it before, but I've forgotted. What pairing are you writing?

[caithream.livejournal.com]

HOW IS HE SO AMAZING. I JUST DON'T EVEN GET IT.

See, heh, I'm all like, HOORAY NC-17 BRING IT ONNN within the SPN universe but RPF? It's just a little. Weird. Doesn't stop me from enjoying a few pieces here and there, but yeah.

Jensen/OFC. So very nc-17, AHAHAHA. My brain, I do not understand it.

[alex-shane.livejournal.com]

Oh God. I thought this man couldn't be more adorable but now I am just... speechless.

I am also not really into that Wincest or J2 or whatever thing because I respect the actors too much to write or read something like that.
But what matters is if you WANT to write it, then write it. That's my opinion.
And as you said it: It is only fiction.

Oh no. Is James Joyce really that hard? Because I have to read books of both authors and I am looking forward reading Mrs. Dalloway but I am really afraid of Joyce.
How many papers have you written on those two? Do you think you have to write more than you have already done?

[caithream.livejournal.com]

I literally GASPED out loud. He is just too amazing, really.

Well, I read A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man and I'm just really really glad I didn't have to touch Ulysses because I would have probably cried my way through the whole semester. Portrait is okay, so steeped in every kind of nuance it almost reminds me of Eliot's love of allusion. You have to dig. But reading Woolf is like walking through a maze with a dimly lit candle. Mrs. Dalloway was the last of the three of hers that I read, and I was so happy there was actually some sort of plot that I nearly cried ahaha. A LOT OF CRYING. To The Lighthouse was pretty difficult and Orlando just plain insane, all the incredible amounts of meaning behind nearly everything in the book. I mean, it's good to look back and say, "I got through this!" but wow. Hard work, man. Good luck!

[alex-shane.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I have heard that 'Ulysses' should be a real bitch.
But reading Woolf is like walking through a maze with a dimly lit candle.
That's beautiful. Tomorrow I will buy it!
I don't think I will say I am happy that I got through this because then we have to write the papers and a big exam -.- I am not looking forward to this. And I didn't know that and in summer I read Steinbeck's 'Of Mice and Men' and I said "I got through this!" but I have to reread it someday because I didn't take notes nor can I remember very much. That's my problem.
But thank you! :) *huggles*

[giftedstudent.livejournal.com]

Aaaaw. I literally had to cup my hands over my heart for that...like I do when a baby does something cute or a boy does something sappy. I WANT ONE!


I don't know how to explain that fic question. It all makes sense in my brain but nothing wants to come out lol. I know that it's easy for me to slash people (celebrity, or otherwise) because I'm of the express opinion that EVERYone is hotter if they're a little bisexual. As for fiction itself, I never used to read it. It really creeped me out to think about people using real people as fictional characters (and sexual situations made me crack up and blush 19 shades of crimson at the same time thinking about these people naked and doing the do). But, then I was given links to some beeeeeautifully written RPS and I guess I sort of just view it like I would view any fictional book I'd pick up at the library? I also don't read a lot of straight RPF/RPS. I like AUs, so maybe in my brain it's easier to swallow if it's a fictional version of a real person? I dunno, I lol.

I am super picky about what I read, though. I don't just stumble onto things, I have to have a rec or something because if I'm going to take my time to read fic when I could be reading a book, it better be the cream and so good it should read like a published novel or a film. SPN fandom spoils me because the writers in fandom are amazing. I get a lot of good recs lol.

I don't even know, that was one big blob of nonsensical babble. Good luck with that lol.

[caithream.livejournal.com]

I KNOW! I literally gasped out loud. SIIIGH THIS GUY.

No, that wasn't nonsensical at all! I definitely agree, especially with being picky, ahaha. And YES, we are so very very spoiled in this fandom with all the amazing writers. Pretty much I think that's why when I first fell into the fandom is was head first and hard. I don't think I've ever fallen for any other fandom so hard so quickly. THANKS TO THE FIC. Homg. It makes me so happeeeeee.

[flusteredspeech.livejournal.com]

I was going to answer you seriously, and then I saw your icon. Who WOULDN'T want to Mary-Sue herself right in there, huh? I WANT THEIR GEEK LOVE, OK??

*draws hearts around them omg*

[caithream.livejournal.com]

EEEEE ISN'T IT JUST TOO MUCH. GOD. If I could just hang out with them for ONE DAY and we could all be RIDICULOUSLY DORKY TOGETHER, I swear, I would die of happiness. It's kind of stupid how happy they make me.

[giventofly37.livejournal.com]

DEAR JENSEN, TAKE ME I'M YOURS. Seriously, that's fucking awesome.

Also, LESS THINKY MORE PORN is basically my motto for RPF. \o/

[caithream.livejournal.com]

IT MAKES MY INSIDES HURT, BABE. He does this kind of stuff on PURPOSE. Oh God.

Then I shall take that and RUN, because if I think to hard about it all I kind of want to crawl under my bed and die. AHAHAHA. ♥

[mrstinkles.livejournal.com]

Well, since you asked... RPF bothers me. I know everyone puts a disclaimer that this is purely fiction, but it's real people you're writing about. My question is, what would the people you're writing about think if they read it? It seems disrespectful to me, when in fact it's generally being written because the writer adores the subject.

That said, I do have RPF fans on my flist. And if it's something that's been nagging at you, I say try it and see how you feel. :)

And Jensen? alslksfdkljf (I'm trying to remember sign language for "you're welcome." The sign for "thank you" is like blowing a kiss.)

[scary-lullabies.livejournal.com]

That's very interesting. Deaf people are kinda known for liking the horror genre, I wonder if he's met a deaf fan before. :)

As for your RPF question, I wish I knew the answer. Especially because RPF used to squick me completely, and now I'm up to my ears in it and very happily so. But I have no idea what caused this change of heart.