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HMMMmm, this post! Okay, I'd have to say, that if the speculation of Dean as Michael's vessel DID happen, I would probably have a glee fit. A FIT OF GLEE. Which, okay, I know, makes some people unhappy as all get out, and I understand why, I do! BUT. As long as he's not like, you know, totally was-Jimmy-now-Castiel-possessed-all-the-time-and-forever, I KIND OF REALLY WANT IT, OKAY.

As far as I've gathered, the foreshadowing that they've included have been:

- 4.22, the paintings on the wall
- the mythos of Lucifer and Michael being brothers (especially with all the speculation of Sam being Lucifer's vessel)
- that Castiel told Dean he thought he was "special" enough to hear his true voice in 4.01
- apparently per 4.20, being a vessel is "in the blood" (hence the previous point?)
- plus this idea, which HMM INDEED. They never did get around to saying what he left behind in Hell. And apparently it's pretty important.

BUT YOU TELL ME, FLIST.

[Poll #1403053]

AND STUFF.

BUT OK IF NOT, MISHA'S TWITTER:

mishacollins Minions (Mignions in France), 1 of you must have ratted me out on the Pony sushi--2500 PETA protesters are holding vigil in my front yard.

mishacollins also, Michelle Obama wants me to come over to "help assemble the kid's new trampoline." But she's just gonna put her hands all over me again

mishacollins Barack always gets drunk and pretends he doesn't notice. It makes me uncomfortable. It's just embarrassing.

WHAT. ALKSDJASDJASD WHAT.

ETA: It's 66 degrees out?? It's almost June! THIS IS AWESOME. (Thank you, downpour that we've been having these past few days!)

Date: 2009-05-20 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendy.livejournal.com
I said suck because I do not want Dean to be an actual angel. And THEN I felt guilty for harshing your squee. And THEN I tried to un-vote but you can't once you voted.

And BASICALLY I AM SORRY. *hides*

Date: 2009-05-20 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caithream.livejournal.com
AWW, YOU! <333 Don't worry about it, I wouldn't have put that option if I didn't want it, heee. And WELL, no, I wouldn't either, but say if Michael popped in and out a couple times (heh) to do the heavy duty work (ie: killing Lucifer), THAT, I think, would be pretty awesome!

Date: 2009-05-20 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendy.livejournal.com
BUT SEE! Sam has to kill Lucifer -- it's his redemption!

Date: 2009-05-20 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regala-electra.livejournal.com
Liar! Sam's redemption is making out with Dean.

OBVIOUSLY.

Date: 2009-05-20 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caithream.livejournal.com
Aw, that is true! HMM! WELL, as long as Lucifer isn't IN Sam, and THEN Dean(/Michael) kills him. DDDD:

Date: 2009-05-20 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendy.livejournal.com
AGREED.

Date: 2009-05-20 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regala-electra.livejournal.com
WHAT. (re: Misha's twitter.)

JUST. WHAT.

Also, Dean-as-Michael (or a representative of Michael) has occurred as far back as Season Two's Houses of the Holy, from what Sera Gamble discussed in an interview that year.

Date: 2009-05-20 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caithream.livejournal.com
SERIOUSLY, HOW IS HE EVEN POSSIBLE. MY BRAIN GOES WHUT.

OH YEAH. I remember have a little flip out about that when reviewing the episode! I guess I kinda shoved it under the rug until now. Maybe it just fills my desire to see badass!Dean! Mmm, badass!Dean.

Date: 2009-05-20 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regala-electra.livejournal.com
Misha: great tulpa or GREATEST tulpa?

I only remember it because of reading Sera's interview. Mmm, badass!Dean.

Date: 2009-05-20 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musical-emjay.livejournal.com
ARGH. I waffle back and forth so much on this issue! One part of me is like, "HOW FUCKING BADASS WOULD THAT BE?", but the other part of me gets all sad and disgruntled because if it turned out that way, it wouldn't be THE BOYS saving the day and kicking Evil's ass, it would be....Archangel Michael. There's just something so unbelievably anti-climatic about Dean's "desinty" (and possibly Sam's "desinty", if we think Lucifer will possess him) being him effectively DOING NOTHING. Where's the emotional arc in that? Where's the payoff? I think in the end I would just feel CHEATED :/

I'M ALSO JUST REALLY SCARED THAT LUCIFER IS GONNA POSSESS SAMMY AND THEN IT'LL STILL BE BRO VS. BRO, WHICH.....NO. Like, how fucking TRAGIC would that be? If now that they've just realized that bad shit goes down when they're not in it together, and they're determined to try and work through all the bad stuff that happened it all just goes to hell because Lucifer's like HAY GUYS. OOH, SAMMY, I'M JUST GONNA POP IN HERE FOR A TIC, KTHNX. Like, the opportunity for reconciliation is just snatched away. If that happens, I'm seriously going to BAWL ;___;

Also, Misha's Twitter is a thing of constant amazement, joy, and INSANITY. Fuck you, Misha. Fuck you for making me adore you so much!

Date: 2009-05-20 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caithream.livejournal.com
SEE, I know what you mean! And people have said that, and I'm like AAAACK, I KNOOOOW. If it was Dean's destiny all along just to BE a vessel, well. Hm. What was his whole life for, then? It's so hard to say! But I'm sure there would be more of a twist that they would put on the story, IF they decided to go that route.

UGHHH, I KNOW! See, I THOUGHT that everything might be all hunky dory there at the end of Lucifer Rising, and THEN my friend mentions THE LOOK ON SAM'S FACE, so I go back and watch it, and MAN, I DUNNO. He's just got this look of ECSTATIC WONDER, while Dean's like, "DUDE, LET'S GET THE HELL OUT." So that WORRIES ME so much! I thought everything was going to be okay! BUT NO, KRIPKE, YOU JUST HAD TO MAYBE PULL OUT SOMETHING WORSE THAN THE MEATHOOKS. GOD.

Seriously, I can't be caught GIGGLING INSANELY at my phone in public! It's JUST EMBARRASSING.
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Date: 2009-05-20 10:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-05-20 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] je-suis.livejournal.com
None of the answers fit my response, lol. I would LOVE to see Michael. Like...LOVELOVELOVE. But I don't want Dean to be his vessel. Dean is so compelling because he's so human, so flawed. I don't want to see him with angel powers, plus if he kills Lucifer, I want HIM to kill Lucifer, not his body possessed by Michael. But I want to see Michael so bad, omfg. Or Gabriel. 'Cause AWESOME.

Date: 2009-05-20 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skygazing.livejournal.com
this.
I don't want either of the brothers to lose their humanity so much that they are essentially demon/angel or possessed by Lucifer/Michael.

Date: 2009-05-20 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caithream.livejournal.com
All totally valid points! Same here, I would totally LOVE to see just Michael as MICHAEL too, 'cause UNGGG SO GOOD. Still some people think that because Dean went to Hell and was "tarnished," having him be a vessel would just bring it 'round full circle, I guess. SO. Yeah. I'm really kinda conflicted! 'Cause seeing them in and of themselves would be SO AWESOME but as Dean? Homg. Man. I dunno.

Date: 2009-05-20 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magikalrhiannon.livejournal.com
misha should go on tour. he could rock it out at Just For Laughs.

Date: 2009-05-22 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caithream.livejournal.com
BEST IDEA PRETTY MUCH EVER OMFG.

Date: 2009-05-21 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] distantechoes.livejournal.com
More possible foreshadowing: Dean pledging to give himself fully to the service of the Lord? Maybe it's like how Vampires have to be invited in. :P

Also, MISHA WINS. I might put my hands all over him too.

Date: 2009-05-22 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caithream.livejournal.com
HAA! Yes, that too! I can't help but think there's got to be SOMETHING happening that has to do with this theory.

UNGH, YES. Today: I'm beat. up till 5 AM on trampoline w/michelle who wanted to "practice a routine" with me. She was stoned and topless, but had good moves

LIKE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

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